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Minecraft 1.19.1 Is here! Player Chat Reporting, Allay Duplicating and changes to Sculk Blocks. In this video we skim over the changes and share some communication from Mojang.
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0:00 Intro
0:18 Allay Duplication
0:48 Sculk Changes
1:24 Player Chat Reporting
2:18 Chat Changes
3:11 Server Toast
3:44 Minecraft News
4:19 Messages From Inside Mojang
5:02 Opt-In
5:19 Future Changes
5:38 Sharing Reports
5:51 Profanity Filter
6:07 Bots & Automation
6:34 LAN Access
7:29 Final Statement
#minecraft #whatsnew #playerchatreporting
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The only threats that Minecraft have ever faced are pay-to-win scam servers, Bugrock Edition's deliberately predatory shop practices concerning cutting up skins and the emotes, and this moderation garbage.
Are the moderation teams really controlled by Mojang, or by Microsoft?
I'm guessing the latter, which is a severe threat to our game. I don't like this at all.
I'm sorry, but what happened to "No one can tell you what you can or cannot do. With no rules to follow, this adventure, it's up to you."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmB9b5njVbA
I want to think that on that video from Mojang is the developers saying that the "Husband" is Microsoft and "Mobbo" is the chat report system and that they warned us 2 years ago
The need for the "universal" application of the chat moderation does seem to ignore that we are free to run most if not all versions of Minecraft, from Alpha to 1.19.1, that we wish. Therefore, wouldn't a server running 1.17 lack this ability? Or will Mojang be pushing updated code to all older versions too? Or start limiting multi-player to the 1.19.1 and later releases only? This isn't the sort of software where 100% of us use the most recent version, after all (heck, some of us went a decade or longer without updating Windows XP or Win7. ).
We seem focused on potential for false reports and bans, but not on how they plan to implement the code to 100% of users.
On a side note, what percentage of users use multi-player? Aside from bukkit servers back in 2011 or so, I've never used a Minecraft server.
You have to be delusional to believe the system won't be automated. They won't tell you that because it isn't a good PR. Bots are fairly advanced that they will solve majority of the reports. As for the remaining few reports that didn't get solved, "oh well, nobody will find out".
As for not having an option to opt-in or not, I will modify my game to bypass that nonsense if I have to. I don't play on public servers or even their realms for that matter. As long as I don't stream or make videos about it, then it is my game, my rules.
I think Allays should run away when you play 11, 13 or 5
To add to this, I don't think permanent bans are a fair system, obviously I understand that mojang might not have the resources to go through every ban and evaluate an exact punishment but the permanency of a punishment is not a fair verdict for simple profanity, I believe there should also be an Appeal system in place for punishments that are unfair. As such kinds of errors can be easily expected when trying to moderate such a large and complex player base. It also shines a light on toxic communities, who strictly choose to be unsafe for certain players due to a competitive environment. I believe mojang should allow these communities to exist under their own permission, like a paid pass or application. Not because this system is imperfect and dysfunctional, but rather because this system is aimed to make minecraft a safer place for children, and as everyone is aware, the minecraft player base isn't consisted of children only. I think it's only fair that there would be a separation between "Child" and "Adult" rather than both having to both follow guidelines that make the game less enjoyable for one of the two groups.
How did u get that doom skin? That's sick
Dunno why they can't just says the truth, and explain how chat moderation is marketing related, as a clear example I would compare it to the Tumblr banned hashtags. It's a marketing move that allows investors and adversor to join with their money more safely; it has nothing to do with 'create a safe place for players'
I'm just gonna stop playing on public servers on 1.19.1 and up
6:15 its not exactly a clear message, the onscreen question was about bots within servers, so bots could be involved after a player report has been made. They also stated that a ban can only be applied if a human has verified the report, however that leaves opportunities for bots to filter out reports, which could cause false negatives, and if a human decides youve sent enough "invalid" reports, perhaps they would ban the account sending the reports
A lot of people are opting not to update to 1.19.1 in protest. Ngl, I happen to agree with them.
I'm not sure that it works everywhere, but in a cracked launcher with meteor client I was able to connect to my aternos server with an account that is banned from multiplayer with the help of alt manager
Talking about a company WAY overstepping the bounds of free speech … I will NOT be playing on any 1.19.1 or later servers. Mojang just blew themselves up.
So literally ANY kid who throws a tantrum can get someone banned? This is COMPLETE BS.
Why don't we all just stop updating? We don't even need Mojang anymore after data packs & resource packs.
i knew when they forced us to move to microsoft accounts and throw away mojang ones it was going to end badly
I'm kinda happy, that I only play on Servers with people I know and trust. Also mostly, I am the one taking care of administration. We never really had any problems. But if we ever have any bad blood, I would fear giving people a weapon to harm you just out of spite.
All in all, I am not a fan. Solves a problem I never had and might cause problems if someone really gets vindictive for some reason.
im pretty sure they cant moderate cracked clients so…..
Cracked Clients On Top!
I have a question. What would happen if a player with a non premium account joins a server with the name of a mojang employe and starts typing slurs? How would the report system answer to this.
That report system is run by a bot and you don’t actually have to submit a report as you will already have been punished because you viewed someone’s message:)
i wonder if vanillia tweaks will make a antichat-reporting mod/datapack (if you can even fit it into a datapack anyways (probably not)) to get rid of the chat-filter and chat-reporting feature
#saveminecraft
Again, parental controls, if your child can turn off the parental controls, there is a problem, just make better parental controls
Thank god, you know up until this point I felt really unsafe playing Minecraft. The other players frightened me and the thought of what they could possibly say or do left me constantly on edge. I feel much safer now that I can ban anyone who makes me feel unsafe.
We don't need this to keep us safe this is a horrible idea in it's entirety
I love how some of us learned nothing from those last 2 years
it always starts slow, it has to, for most if us to accept it.
And restrictions on speech ruled by a corporation sounds kinda like sonething that could be a problem
It seems like a really bad idea because I feel like there's just going to be that one dude that just sits there reporting every single message that can be taken out of context
The update that we really don't need
mind control from microsoft as they ( bill gates ) own mojang Well Done !
gotta find it funny how both 1.9 and 1.19 are both really controversial updates.
"No automation" is a lie, it is simple maths. It is way too expensive to pay enough people to deal with all reports. At best they will employ enough people to deal with complaints, but even that seems not particularly likely. "give people tools" is clearly also a lie. Otherwise it would be opt-in AND server owners would be informed AND get to decide. And "mojang isn't reading your messages" is hardly any consolation if I have to treat any message I send as if it will be used against me in court.
This feature has made me scared to join large servers that may be targeted by trolls, such as Hypixel. I no longer feel comfortable going on large servers knowing the admins have no control over my safety.
I will say, this video was amazing. You did a great job stating the facts and arguing both sides without making any side seem wrong. Thank you for this video, and how it sums up 1.19.1 perfectly, warts and all. You are doing amazing work and making improvements to how you convey information that are for the better.
Mojang isn’t owned by notch anymore.
It’s not like an 8 year old kid is going to use a computer.
There is mods, plugins that people created to combat this bs system.
"we originally wanted to introduce the system as opt in to give our players the false hope of controlling their own server before pulling the rug under them when it was too late" oh no! mojang couldn't find the time to lie to us again! poor mojang, good to know their word truly means nothing
happy to know they communicate openly with their gentlemans club of youtubers that apparantly deserves better communication
Roblox veterans will know how pretty much every single statement "Mojang" has put out either is already false, or will become false at some point in the future. Human moderators looking at every single report? Doesn't scale, there WILL be robot mods sooner or later. No risk of false bans? According to the comments on this video, there's already a mod to spoof SIGNED messages to get players false banned from Minecraft (nearly identical to a recent controversy in the Roblox community where an API function whose entire purpose is to send messages on a player's behalf was exploited for all it's worth and thousands of false bans resulted… at least Roblox started undoing those bans once it came out they screwed up, Microsoft WILL NOT – note the "no chance of appeal" note on most bans under this new system – unless the falsely banned player was a high profile Minecraft YouTuber). Not snooping on chat unless it's actively reported? One blocklist of banned words sending automatic reports later, and… And so on.
But let's be clear about one thing, and one point in the video Xisuma is completely correct about. This decision for forced chat moderation came from Up High (Microsoft itself), and those Down Below (Mojang) had no say in the matter, no authority to make an opt-out mechanism (and they're probably going to be ordered to make a way to detect the No Reports mod and other bypasses, if they haven't already been told to get working on it). Don't be mad at Mojang, be mad at Microsoft for trying to Xbox Live-ify Minecraft. This was always the endgame for forced Microsoft Account integration (and they're probably going to go after "multiple accounts being used on the same computer at the same time" next, so RIP in pepperonis to the Hermits' camera accounts)…
1. Parents are responsible for their kids, not companies (and definitely not players!). The reporting feature could be avoided easily by just allowing parents account to whitelist certain servers that the kid can join (instead of just enabling / disabling multiplayer)
2. Disabling LAN access if you're banned but allowing you to open LAN servers is not a feature, it's a flaw. I don't think any thoughtful developer would have forgotten about this logical flaw.
3. Mojang secretly communicating only with content creators makes me want to trust their (written) word even less. This is not how you communicate with your community and definitely not how you build back trust.
4. You can only report the chat (did Mojang forget signs and buildings?), therefore the only repercussion should be chat-related.
oof, 1.8k dislikes
I'd be surprised if multiplayer servers update to 1.19.1 at this point
Guess I'll now play on cracked servers
I don't want people to feel safe on my server… if you're whitelisted you can handle not being "safe"!
F!YOU Microsoft!!!!!
There is a 0% chance I trust their "professional" moderators, and it is not 'communication' if they only talk to content creators, particularly those that agree with them.
This moderation system will be abused by Microsoft to promote their political ideology of feminism and oppressing those that contradict feminism, primarily for profit.