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I covered the story of tominecon.7z in a previous video, but there were some things that I missed as well as some new information I discovered. Join me to learn even more about this captivating mystery.
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Errata:
The text at 10:28 should say āMinecraft@Homeā
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So uh…in the 19 hours since this video was released, there has been a HUGE update which makes this video at least partially obsolete. Subscribe so that you don't miss the final video in the tominecon trilogy!
i was way too high for the segment where he describes the scale of AES256
pretty sure cracking a file that's publicly available isn't a crime. what you do with the contents might be, tho
4:30 goes from oh yeah key big then goes to universe wtf it just gets kind of unnecessary from there
Hmm, so if we were to try and brute force it it would taken longer than the universe?
I do think it is odd that dinnerbone will not explicitly say what the file contains. he always refers to it vaguely.
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8:22 SO MUCH YAP TO EXPLAIN
I mean, Mojang have a lot of things they keep secret, not because its confidential but because it would ruin the mystery. The main thing that is kept a secret in Mojang is the exact lore of Minecraft, and thats because revealing it would ruin the creativity of people who try to theorize about the lore in their own way.
i love yours videos
Computing Science Teacher Here: Breaking into that file is not explicitly illegal. The file was available on a public directory at some point for people to download.
The only way you would realistically get in trouble for breaking into an encrypted file or even a device would be if the file or device was stolen.
Okay, i was just thinking about something realizeing that the name Zachary has 7 letters 7Z. the word tominecon has 9 letters , 9+7=16. i know its a stupid this but i just thought yk?
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it is not lost media, it never was media and it is not lost
almost had a heart attack from him explaining how hard it is to crack a AES 265 file š
I thought it was Truecrypt drive and if so wasn't that technology cracked ?
I get all of the other ones but why are "klaster" and "159753" on the most popular passwords list? Are they references I don't get?
So someone knew how to crack the aes and he committed suicide due to 50 years in jail or prison
Bro thank you so much for giving us numbers in scientific notation. It is genuinely the only way I can understand any number past 10^7.
Where can i find the original 7z file
Watching people without domain knowledge trying to be professional on cracking stuff is soooooooooooooooooooooo entertaining XD I bet notch or else are as entertained as you guys. A proper background and an encrypted file can truly show how an urban tale is generated hahahahaha. Just keep trying it. Try even harder.
half the video is soy this 256 bit passcode for a lock is really big
bruteforce with minecraft@home ez
I was dissapointed and u offered an attempt at redeming urself but nah, am even more dissapointed…
haha quantum computing go brrrrrr
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it's not a crime to crack an encrypted file that you got from a public repository where other public things were distributed. the people who downloaded that file own that file. it was given to them just like anything else posted in the repository. encrypted or not, mojang gave that file away.
also there are more efficient brute force attacks.
i swear if this file gets opened billions of years in the future to just be a rick roll or something similar, my atoms will come back from the dead and i'll detonate the sun out of rage
tominecon has herobrine im calling it
Retro, anything new with Markus101 arg? In the video you said there was a second part being worked on. Iāve been curious how it had been going
So what do you know that we don't know.
You played up the mind boggling numbers that tend to lose all meaning, for way to long for an intro. (as if such numbers validated your point)
You suddenly got access to details after the fact and got more details about dinnerbones view.
You start playing the same tune as the employees and actively playing against what may or may not be in it.
You are being very discouraging towards any idea of opening it, like Any notion of it.
You are oddly taking some very obvious techniques of wording things from Mojang employees, that all have a very tight knit friendship behind the scenes, at complete face value.
— Why would they suddenly play this up with a decoy? To basically gaslight everyone to one way or another give up on the file.
You take the loosest of threats, and very incomplete threats as well, and parrot them as a warning.
You are being a mouth piece for someone else.
Just to point out, the fact that people have that file is a crime, and the longer Mojang allows it to go on the weaker any legal claim they have against actions towards it is. They've knowingly let people retain access to material without any action under the assumption the security is enough. (this is a failing on mojang part)
The problem is that while such a thing is difficult to do.. .and will only provide .. source code for a game that's 2 decades out of date, doesn't make it not worthwhile.
Seriously, think about it for more than just a minute and do try to ignore the obvious white noise generation being put on by the employees and discouragement.
1. It'd be easy to brute force check the 'rumored' password of 16 characters of only numbers. That's Literally only 65, 536 passwords possible.
— Think about how odd it is, that no you or anyone with a modern bloody system hasn't tried to do this… and you seem to avoid even thinking about it.
2. While mojang has been about player fun & choice. I want you to remember who notch turned out to be, and what exactly dinnerbones reputation is, and if that'd even line up with the proposed 'it was just for fun', and frankly it's strange to downright out of place for them, mojang, or MS now to ever agree to an ARG version of cracking a dummy file.
Seriously, if they wanted people to drop it, they'd deliver what they claim it was, and even give the battered as hell source code for the xbox or java pc version (of which a few preservation groups would LOVE that, and you'd have more good-will generated for mojang & MS for that alone then is measurable.
That said… the phrasing used by the employees bothers me as it's akin to someone saying 'Well, there is something going on that I care about. But you don't need to know and it would bore you' after you already played an ARG (in the kindest light) with them and that supposed secret. Which begs the question … why did they do that, when at the time not being honest about the fake till WAY WAY later, after assumingly something changed behind the scenes.
Also, have you verified the one who cracked it… Like who they are and their relations to mojang? Seems interesting that he or she speaks so…. one sided. Sure it could absolutely be as it is on it's face… but, given the level of deceptions, plausible deniability, and paticular phrasings used by the official Mojang people. Forgive me if I don't take someone just going by a handle who cracked the decoy and playing up 'the decoy was meant to be cracked, and the real one was not'…. after the attempts of swapping the files out was uncovered.
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yall remember the Minecraft@Home project?
perhaps it's time for Tominecon@Home
This video (including the previous one) reminds me so much of the time when everyone was trying to decode the FNaF lore, this video genuinely gave me a lot of nostalgia
If it's so boring why don't they just actually tell us what's inside? As RGN pointed out in the last video, Minecraft 1.0 is too small by itself. So just tell us what else is in there
Just what if the data file is something related to the password of the original file? Maybe notch at that time made it all to troll all of us? And if mojang saying that there is nothing useful in the file, there must be something useful. If there was something useful in the file according to mojang, they wouldn't just go and say that there is something confidential, don't open it.
For a very random video file and a very random "data" file to appear in the decoy, that must mean that notch(or any one at the staff in mojang at that time) accidentally put it in the assets server and probably forgot about it, and when notch saw that the file is getting some what attention, he swapped the file with very random things.
What if you only try paswords with real words so eliminate all random letter paswords that reduces the amount a lot, right?
While AES 256 is a strong algorithm indeed, it's NOT impossible to break it. It's just a question of when we will be able to do that. Nothing is impossible. Just very hard to achieve, right now.
Regarding legal issues, since the file in-question was posted on a publicly-accessible place, copying, possessing, cracking, opening, and accessing the file would probably be found by judges and juries to not be illegal. However, doing things with the content may be tortuous and may open one up for various forms of civil law suits, such as libel, defamation, patent violations, copyright violations, intellectual property theft, tortuous interference, etc.
And setting legal issues aside, it's not very ethical or moral to force-open an encrypted zip file belonging to one of one's favorite merchants (and if you like Minecraft, then yes, that makes Mojang one of your favorite merchants). And doing things with that information that hurt Mojang would be even more unethical.
To put it on a personal basis, let's say that you (the person reading this comment) accept me (Robbie Hatley) as your close personal friend. Then lets say I violate your trust by picking-open the back door of your house, riffling through your desk, making unauthorized copies of information on new products you're developing for a startup company you just founded, and then I give that information to your competitors, ruining you financially. Quite apart from the many crimes and torts I just committed, what kind of "friend" am I? A fake one.
So if one likes a company and its products, one should refrain from doing things which harm that company, because doing so can be not only illegal and tortuous, but immoral, illogical, and stupid.
With that in-mind, if someone does open this mysterious file, it might be best if they just keep the contents to themselves.
Can't you just randomize the 256 bits instead of the password?
There could be a couple of ways to open that file – and all are so super unreally insanely impossible, that it's hard to describe.
1st way:
Using a quantum-computer, which would easily Brute Force it in a more sensible amount of time; but such computer doesn't yet exist.
2nd way:
A new breakthrough of mathmatics that would let us make the 2 on the 256th less, like 2 on the 128th; however this is not likely – what's more, probably impossible
3rd way would be to install a keylogger and event logger on the computer that it (was/is) accessed, and so when they would open it, we would get the password. However, this is simply not practical and also has barely any chance, since I doubt they'd be opening that file, and I also doubt anyone could ever install a key or event logger on ANY of their computers.
4th way:
Brute Forcing; as mentioned in the video, it would take billions of years, so it is nowhere practical.
5th way:
I have no more ideas, however I find it impossible that it would be impossible. Yes, AES-256 is the best, most secure encryption – however, I'm too stupid to figure out how this works like very deeply, since you have the file, downloaded. It's on your hard drive. Phisically. So why would it ever be impossible to open it? Good question. Have no idea, but I'd be happy if someone replied with an answer. But the fact that it CANNOT be opened isn't true, but the fact that it CAN is also just a theory.
The other video was cool,
This one just low effort AI tts and comparing numbers with too many 0āsā¦.
Still watching the Videos
3:30 I'm loving this series but there was really no reason to spend 3 minutes talking about how big 115 quattuorvigintillion is
Gotta wait for quantum computers to have a part 3
We did not need 6 minutes for "number big".
My guess is that the file was too big to send in an e-mail, so they just send the public link and password
My bet is that its not only the 1.0 build but a load of dependencies such as the jre that would have been needed to get a basic machine working from scratch. I suspect that it was likely placed in the public assets so that it could easily be pulled down by staff members at the con to setup any machine they needed.
Here's one the you might like…
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